Deaf Snowy White JRT (Curly coat) on death row…

Hi,

Battersea – Dont even take *their own* dogs back from known aggression except to kill them so that one is OUT.

I dunno about DT but there are tons of other rescues which take deaf dogs, and a few that take aggressive dogs too.

Its obvious (to me) these people never wanted a trainer – they wanted shot of their dog immediately without the guilt of pts.  They must think all their xmas come at once.  My dear – take some good advice, you want a pts clause in your contract, walk away if its this obvious you cant save them all and rescues are jam packed as it is without an aggressive deaf dog.

Why cant you re-mod this pup then ?  You are supposed to be a behaviourist !!!

What qualifications do you actually have in training and behaviour (any muppet can be APDT – i know some awful members) ??

Claire.

Bev would be the best person as she has this type of cover I don’t think it would apply with the original owner as she knows it bites, but if vixc was to pass it on and it bite she could be sued and she would lose
Val

I am stunned to see this person has been operating for 13 years  !

apparently …

though i cannot find any actual accredited qualifications on her website or any detailed case studies of her work (apart from a few name drops) …

also – one of her so-called trainers runs a website which sells …

training discs
pet corrector spray
2-3 types of non-pull harness

wonder why they need to sell those ???

the only saving grace is that she has a link to LAD !! 

Think the point is Suz it’s not the owner and as the poster is a trainer she has a responsibility to either have a go at retraining this pup or returning it to the owner, not to come on a board and ask about rehoming as she will be liable if it bites someone as she knew it has bitten.

As you know we have found homes before for dogs on this board but as a moderator I do not want to see a dog that bites find a home via this board.

If you work in dogs this is the baggage that can come with it, then you either take it on board or walk away.
In this day and age we must be careful a dangerous dog comes in all sizes as we have often said on here
Val

if i take on a re-homing case or am re-homing a client’s dog – either after in depth assessments (that can takes hours) and then make the decision that the dog is suitable for re-homing – then i find that home on the basis that i am also part of the deal for remod and future training for the life of the dog…that is contractual – if there has been any aggression or i suspect possible aggression of any type – my insurers are informed the dog is insured and the dogs insurers are informed – the new owners are fully informed and have to have agreed in writing that they understand what they are taking on and management is in place from day one – the original owners sign a different contract to the norm that indemnifies that neither myself or the new owner of any legal damages resulting from any undisclosed propensity to bite or to undelcared bites in varying conditions …..so for example re the above – the waking type bites would be declared and acknowledged and we know that is to be worked on – if the dog then bites outside of that behaviour and we then discover that it has done so at that criteria in the pass then the legal responsibility then returns to the original owner

all this takes much longer than 24 hours…(am working on such a case now in it’s 12th day and am on third draft of contracts with my solicitor) if i can’t find the time then i can’t find the time – if i cant find the right home then i cant find the right home – if the money is not available for the insurers and legal cover etc and fund raising is not available then it isnt – and as much as i want to save everydog or at least give everydog a second and at times third chance then sometimes it just is not possible but once committed then in my book i am committed to the end and that end may well be me holding the paw on the journey to the rainbow bridge

i would not have removed this dog for 24 hours nor would i hand him on to others to deal with
and that is not a criticism of the OP just the way i work….sometimes the heart rules the head and when that happens the other side of the coin – the legalities and moral issues and realism – get lost in the mire

or in my case with the clumsies  ::) they live here like samtoo…..

sounds like this dog needs a lot more than….i hope you find him a forever home but my advice would be to consider all implications

hi,

not quite but maybe i didnt word it that well !

basically what i meant is –

if the trainer gave dog back to owners and ceased whatever contract is in place to help with behaviour would this remove the liability to her if the owners re-home it and it does bite again or will the fact the contract was once in place and (presumably) she has given the new owners a written assessment prove that she knew and keep liability in place ?

or put simply – in your case, do you always remain liable if you are “a professional” just because you know the dog is aggressive ?

claire x

I’ve been watching this one closely. I was hoping the OP would return as it does seem there are lots of implications that need more that 24hrs to consider. I wonder what happened with the dog as well.  :-\