Re: Bad relationship

[Izzie]

[quote author=Dree link=topic=12456.msg241238#msg241238 date=1221693404]

Apologies for bringing my own dog, Nell, into the discussion.  I was only using her as an example of where the instant down (or the Martini  ;)) could be used.  Dogs running off to play with other dogs….instant down in place, go and put dog on lead and reward.  The behaviour of running off becomes extinct because every time it runs off (to attack, to play, whatever) it is put in a down.  The “running off” behaviour simply disappears, because there is no fun at the end of it.  The fun becomes the down, and the reward for the down….which is eventually phased out as well. 
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Hang on…

So you’re telling Cjane to put her dog into a down everytime the dog runs off and then put them on a lead- correct?
but shouldnt you reward the down and not put the lead on?
why put them on a lead at all? -thats only going to create an extintion of the down cue and open even more problems- is it not?

Why not get a 100% reliable recall? or a reliable stop cue?  or even a go greet- greet nice cue in place instead of running the risk of extinctions occuring and the dog working to avoid.