Re: Bad relationship

[kizkiznobite]

at the end of the day… 🙂

extinction is what it is and involves aversion…even for the most ‘rewarding’ trainer…it takes skill and understanding to apply correctly and it’s use…. while at times useful…. i would not use in this way…personal choice…but i wont risk extinguishing a behaviour at the sake of not using another cue for a wanted behaviour…if dog has to be leashed …even from a martini down…then the recall is not a martini…or the stop isnt…or upsit or roll on back or go left go right…or into nudge or a stand off or a wait up or or…just MHO…

cues for sheepdogs…same principles apply…a word is a word is a word..you should hear some of my mothers  😀 😀

i still tend…even with the gunners …as those of you that have been out with me…use upcomeby…totally different context of course…but…it just a word and i know how i interpreted it at 4 years old  😀 😀

mind you…when my mother says such stuff…i still to this day become a sheepdog…a bit like me yelling at Mo WAIT as she went to cross road in front of car…she did…and then said…I am not a dog… ;D