Bad relationship

[kizkiznobite]

nahhhhh dont believe it diesel….where you confused hun?…you have dogs with real raw neoteny… lets face it  😀 you aint got time or chance to be confused  ;D

[Diesel73]

[quote author=kizkiznobite link=topic=12456.msg241343#msg241343 date=1221755110]
nahhhhh dont believe it diesel….where you confused hun?…you have dogs with real raw neoteny… lets face it  😀 you aint got time or chance to be confused  ;D
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True  😀 hahahaha.

[*Nick*]

My cats breath smells like cat food  :butt:

WORST THREAD EVER!!!!!!!!

[quote author=Diesel73 link=topic=12456.msg241340#msg241340 date=1221754998]
[quote author=Mark. link=topic=12456.msg241269#msg241269 date=1221736596]
This thread is surreal.  :surprise:
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Except for the last page….Typical women communication….. Men can understand e-ve-ry word they are saying, but we can’t figure out whàt they are talking about. Confusing yes   :yes: .
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[kizkiznobite]

be worrying if it smelled of something else i guess  😉

[cjane]

Nick & Mark – what’s the problem with this thread, having difficulty multi-tasking?

[Anonymous]

Men multi-tasking, in the same sentence  :nono: :nono:

[quote author=cjane link=topic=12456.msg241370#msg241370 date=1221761985]
Nick & Mark – what’s the problem with this thread, having difficulty multi-tasking?
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[.dodger.]

[quote author=cjane link=topic=12456.msg241370#msg241370 date=1221761985]
Nick & Mark – what’s the problem with this thread, having difficulty multi-tasking?
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: you got them there cjane :butt:

[Dree]

[quote author=kizkiznobite link=topic=12456.msg241299#msg241299 date=1221750614]
sorry but…you dont work within criterias then…as in taking in account the influences of environments before moving on the process?
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Yes, I do. What make you think I don’t?

[Anonymous]

Haven’t i heard a saying somewhere that the only thing 2 dog trainers will ever agree on is that the 3rd trainer is wrong?  :surrender:

[Anonymous]

[quote author=cjane link=topic=12456.msg241370#msg241370 date=1221761985]
Nick & Mark – what’s the problem with this thread, having difficulty multi-tasking?
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The only time i ever Multi Tasked was when i used to drink & smoke. I can’t keep up with this thread, there’s too many cooks.  :surprise:

[Izzie]

[quote author=Mark. link=topic=12456.msg241386#msg241386 date=1221766310]
Haven’t i heard a saying somewhere that the only thing 2 dog trainers will ever agree on is that the 3rd trainer is wrong?   :surrender:
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Yep  ;D ;D

[Dree]

[quote author=piglet link=topic=12456.msg241305#msg241305 date=1221751414]

quote :

Remember that if he does a slow one, or is slow to react (presuming he understands the command perfectly in all circumstances) then with-hold the reward.  Or just give him a pat on the head, and say “Good try, son, but not good enough.

Dree – a stop is a stop, your down in this situation is a stop then a down its 2 behaviours (the behaviour of stopping and the behaviour of down) chained together 🙂 

I would take care witholding rewards during initial training for non fluent behaviour – i reward this and build on it.  Also I wouldnt give reward for unreliable cues (ones with are almost there are not the behaviour you want so … “what u click 4 is what u get” – my bonnie can offer a wonderful 1/2 sit crouch kinda thing in freeshaping from when i was clicking in the wrong place !).

Correct me if I am wrong but surely if you had Nells cues reliable and fluent it follows that you wouldnt need to put her on her lead (and deny her flight and increase her dog anxiety) ?  Basically it means you never got your C5+D with her for her heelwork or stayby / leaveit / waitup cues …?

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See my reply to Izzie as to whether it is one or two behaviours.

I am with-holding rewards for a behaviour that has already been well taught.  Read my post again.  The dog understands the down, and does it well in all circumstances.  So if it doesn’t do it fast enough, the reward can be with-held….or a lower reward given, such as a pat on the head…so that the dog tries harder to get a fast down the next time.  Yes, I understand about clicking in the right or wrong place…..depends if you are clicker training or using positive reinforcement, doesn’t it?

Nell was around 5/6 months old at the time, and I used the best that I had at the time, which was the down.  I put her on the lead, because if she had decided to carry through the attack (unlikely, yes, but possible) she was heading for a human….and for a road.  As for C5+D….I was never much good at trig  :laugh:  Speak in a language we can all understand.  No-one should be trying to confuse anyone with behaviourist jargon.

[Dree]

[quote author=Izzie link=topic=12456.msg241393#msg241393 date=1221766706]
[quote author=Mark. link=topic=12456.msg241386#msg241386 date=1221766310]
Haven’t i heard a saying somewhere that the only thing 2 dog trainers will ever agree on is that the 3rd trainer is wrong?   :surrender:
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Yep  ;D ;D
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I agree!!!!!  :laugh:

[Anonymous]

[quote author=Dree link=topic=12456.msg241399#msg241399 date=1221766982]
[quote author=Izzie link=topic=12456.msg241393#msg241393 date=1221766706]
[quote author=Mark. link=topic=12456.msg241386#msg241386 date=1221766310]
Haven’t i heard a saying somewhere that the only thing 2 dog trainers will ever agree on is that the 3rd trainer is wrong?   :surrender:
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Yep  ;D ;D
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I agree!!!!!  :laugh:
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No you don’t. ROFLOL  ;D ;D

[Izzie]

[quote author=Dree link=topic=12456.msg241396#msg241396 date=1221766836]
[quote author=piglet link=topic=12456.msg241305#msg241305 date=1221751414]

quote :

Remember that if he does a slow one, or is slow to react (presuming he understands the command perfectly in all circumstances) then with-hold the reward.  Or just give him a pat on the head, and say “Good try, son, but not good enough.

Dree – a stop is a stop, your down in this situation is a stop then a down its 2 behaviours (the behaviour of stopping and the behaviour of down) chained together 🙂 

I would take care witholding rewards during initial training for non fluent behaviour – i reward this and build on it.  Also I wouldnt give reward for unreliable cues (ones with are almost there are not the behaviour you want so … “what u click 4 is what u get” – my bonnie can offer a wonderful 1/2 sit crouch kinda thing in freeshaping from when i was clicking in the wrong place !).

Correct me if I am wrong but surely if you had Nells cues reliable and fluent it follows that you wouldnt need to put her on her lead (and deny her flight and increase her dog anxiety) ?  Basically it means you never got your C5+D with her for her heelwork or stayby / leaveit / waitup cues …?

[/quote]

See my reply to Izzie as to whether it is one or two behaviours.

I am with-holding rewards for a behaviour that has already been well taught.  Read my post again.  The dog understands the down, and does it well in all circumstances.  So if it doesn’t do it fast enough, the reward can be with-held….or a lower reward given, such as a pat on the head…so that the dog tries harder to get a fast down the next time.  Yes, I understand about clicking in the right or wrong place…..depends if you are clicker training or using positive reinforcement, doesn’t it?

Nell was around 5/6 months old at the time, and I used the best that I had at the time, which was the down.  I put her on the lead, because if she had decided to carry through the attack (unlikely, yes, but possible) she was heading for a human….and for a road.  As for C5+D….I was never much good at trig  :laugh:  Speak in a language we can all understand.  No-one should be trying to confuse anyone with behaviourist jargon.
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C5 is Criteria level 5
+D is plus distractions.  😉

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