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  • #107386
    nala
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    Hi Rough

    From what i gather webbed eyes is a condtion that is a clouding of the eyes and is should rectify itself before birth and on this occasion it has not and also along with that the nerves are damaged and so her eys tend to role and go boseyed so she looks quiet demon like when it does it. At the minute she can see light reactions and movements by shadows i think but the vet says it will be monitered to see if it worsens.

    I may be wrong but that is how i understand it.

    At the end of the day yes she has lined the breeders pocket, but she has got the poorly pup out of there, but they are going to be reported and see what happens from there i have spoken to several breeders and they have reported a lot of puppy farmers to the rspca but funnily enough they have done sweet f**k all about it so plaese tell me how you can stop it except stop buying from them and putting them out of business if even the authorities cannot be arsed to do anything about it if they want to protect the animals like they say they do.

    Thanks Louise

    #107387
    Anonymous
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    Does persistent pulpilliary membranes ring any bells?  If so they can take 12 months to clear.  Eye abnormalies are best diagnosed by a Veterinary Opthalmologist rather than a GP Vet.  She would get a better idea of what is involved if she was referred to a Specialist. 😉

    Your right.  Little is done about these places because they are not actually breaking the law, which is why the ONLY thing to do is not to buy from them.  It REALLY is the only way to stop them breeding defective pups like this.  All the time the money comes in, then they will continue doing it.

    The only thing that you can get them on is if the advert stated Kennel Club registered and they haven’t registered them.  Then you can go to trading standards.  But of course nobody would go and see pups that weren’t advertised as Kennel Club registered, would they?

    #107388
    emma_pen
    Member

    Nobody put me on a throne, but you certainly don’t expect to be called thick by a forum moderator. Me thinks its not me who has a throne here  :-X

    #107389
    Daemonia
    Member

    ummmm … I might be mistaken, but she could have used much worse words than ‘thick’.

    2 pennies worth from a Newbie  ;D

    Karina x

    #107390
    nala
    Member

    So if you had been a brought this puppy yourself ( not that any of you would of course ) and you found out it was blind would you take it back not knowing what would happen to her. I vertainly wouldn’t i would try and give her the best life i could there would be no question about it.

    Thanks Emma Pen i completely agree but then again whenever i post anything on here there is always an insult coming from somewhere ( most of the time ) but it is a good bored so hey i can live with that.

    Its not about throwing insults to people its a bored where people come who want advice and yes my friend may have done a silly thing but it is done know.

    Thanks Louise

    #107391
    Anonymous
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    Yes I would advise to take her back nala.  It REALLY is the only way to hit these puppy producers where it hurts – in the pocket!

    I’m sure that she’s very sweet, but unless the owner is extremely wealthy (most insurance won’t cover things that were there before the policy was taken out) then this pup is a liability and the only person to gain will be the veterinary profession.  Very sad but the truth often isn’t very palatable, I’m afraid. :'(

    #107392
    Daemonia
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    I dont know if I could take her back, I would probably feel guilty for the rest of my life. But I do agree that in theory that IS the best thing to do. It surprises me that still so many people go to puppy farm despite the bad publicity they had.

    Nala, I am surprised your friend didnt seek your advice. Even though you were away, if you decide to get a dog, waiting a day or two or even a week doesnt make any difference. Well, it does make a difference …. coz you will have the good advice.

    #107393
    Anonymous
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    She had been trying to get hold of me to go with her but i was out and so coulnd’t go

    I’m not sure that nala was even away – just out??  I think that Val’s choice of word is very restrained to what I would call her friend! :-\

    nala how did she find these people?  What did the advert say?  She maybe able to cause them grief (not what I would normally suggest but this is such an obviously awful case!) that way!

    #107394
    Daemonia
    Member

    Rough, that’s what I meant. It was obviously a spur of the moment buy … which is never a good idea. I mean when you get a car you shop around. Why not when you get a dog? Are they worth less? I sometimes wonder.

    And if that had happened to a friend of mine, I too would called her/him a loss worse than ‘thick’. Sorry Nala, not having a go at you … just at the situation (errrm and your friend, but that’s too late now).

    I just hope the puppy can have a relatively happy life now. But sounds to me that is very dependant on how much money your friend is prepared to spend at the vets. And I am not even taking possible ‘hidden’ ailments/genetic disorders into account.

    Karina x

    #107395
    nala
    Member

    She is going to speak to trading standards and she is getting some money back from the breeder (lol) and as it is not curable the vets said it is not going to be money after money she will either stay with the vision sha has got know or it will get a bit worse but their is nothing that can be done for her. The vet has tested her for other things aswell but i think they are all ok ( for know ).

    Louise

    #107396
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Poor little thing,  :'( >:(

    #107397
    Lisa33
    Member

    Oh this is so sad :-\ 
    I must admit though it was a bit silly to buy the pup like that.  We did ton of research on Weims before getting Emmy and it certainly pays to do this.  But, om the other hand, once you have the pup, it must feel awful to have to take it back to that horrilble place. 

    Would’nt they do something mean to it if they couldn’t sell it? ???

    #107398
    willowbottom
    Member

    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

    I went through a similar problem with an collegue of mine.A while ago  I had been talking to her about our plans to find a cocker spaniel, and she mentioned that she once had a westie who died, and that she would love another one. I had been in touch with KC and got loads of advice from them and so gave her the contact I used in the hope that she would research before selecting her pup, we had a really in depth conversation about puppy farming..I even said if you don t see the dam dont take the pup. The very next weekend, she saw an ad in a paper westies for sale no papers £150.00. ( dingalingaling ) she bought one. ( SIGH )

    I was disgusted with her after everything we talked about her impatience to get a dog got the better of her and she bought from a puppy farm, she did nt see the dam, there were THREE different litters and no sign of any of the mothers. I could have slapped her. I gave her the talking too of a lifetime and when she DARED complain about how much the vet bill cost her when they d had her home for less than a month and the poor little thing almost died of a virus I just about exploded.

    It took us MONTHS to decide what we wanted in a dog, then when we decided it took us MONTHS to plan for her, and again MONTHS to find a suitable breeder. We travelled half way across  the country TWICE  to meet with the dam and her owners and then again when the litter was 5 weeks, we selected our Milly and then left her with the breeder until she was ready to come to her new home then we made the trip again to collect her. ( sorry Im on my high horse and Im going to ride it )

    My collegue was and IDIOT, lovely woman… but an IDIOT.

    Nala, Im sure you love your friend dearly…but Im sorry…she an IDIOT.

    I hope she learns from this and passes on what she has learnt to others. Its sad for the bitch thats going to live her life popping out pups until she s no longer useful and the B#####RD who used her to line his pockets puts a bullet in her. Its sad for every single pup he passes off to live a life with so many health problems. Its down right tragic for the pups that do get taken back, cos if they can t sell em on the cost of a bullet is too much and lets face it you can get a bucket for a pound and tap water is free ( Yes I know its not nice but it happens ) And its just bloody dispicable that IDIOTS are helping keep this DISGUSTING trade alive.

    Sorry Nala, :-\  Its not an attack on you or your friend, Its just how I feel about the subject.

    What can I say, Its ugly.

    Wendy  >:D

    #107399
    Anonymous
    Guest

    A round of applause for Wendy – because that IS how you go about getting a new puppy.

    Nala im sure no one wishes to really offend you or your friend – but this is a situation people feel very strongly about – especially the breeders who are doing their damn best to breed good sound puppies which will hopefully be healthy and at little risk of having possible serious health problems like your friends puppy. The only person who will ever agree that your friend did a good thing is the idiot that sold her the puppy – i cant even call him a breeder it would be an insult to all the decent breeders out there.
    Its a sad fact that all the while people are in a rush to get a new puppy these puppy farms will prosper  :'(

    #107400
    Lisa33
    Member

    Here Here!

    The sad thing is, it will never stop all the time there are people jumping in feet first and giving a reason for these barbarians to do what they do. :-\

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