March 4, 2005 at 8:12 pm #65101AnonymousGuest
Very true Claire
I had a fascinating talk with a guy who spent 2 years living in close proximity to wolves & it was fascinating Because he ignored them totally they ignored him & he learnt things about wolves that ran contrary to previous observations done on”protected”packs in national parks etc
For the life of me I can’t remember his name but I know he did the study in CanadaMarch 4, 2005 at 8:50 pm #65102AnonymousGuest
yes i am learning in my psychology degree about how simply conducting an “experiment” on something can change its behaviour (“mere presence”) so i am not suprised the guy observed previously unseen things as from what you say he lived seperately and respected the animals when some researchers “follow” them. even something as simple as tagging animals for some reason can change their behaviour so we may never see truly natural patterns unless we are alot less “human” with the monitoring !!
how interesting to be able to talk to him, I have never seen a wolf in the flesh only in pictures. i think i’d still be having the conversation i wouldnt know what to ask about first !!
🙂March 5, 2005 at 9:40 am #65103AnonymousGuest
One of the things he did was mimic the wolves territorial marking this was in order for the wolves to think of him as another animal LOL he did say that he didn’t know how the males managed to mark so many places !! 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮
He was a consultant on The Film “Dancing with Wolves”
He is a fascinating man & I am now p**d off I can’t remember his name ???-he was quite a hunk tho’ ::)March 9, 2005 at 6:17 pm #65104SilverMember
[quote author=JoedeeUK link=topic=214.msg2164#msg2164 date=1109945008]
1.Dogs are one race & one species
Hybrid vigour doesn’t come into play with mixing different breeds(not species or races)of dogs
2.Most of the 200+ breeds of dogs around the world are in fact well over 100 years old-eg the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel & King Charles Spaniels(or English Toy Spaniel)They were around in the 1500’s & there are painting of these dogs done in the reigh of Queen Elizabeth 1.
Dogs are one species but certainly not one race, anymore than Red Indian/Innuit/African/Caucasian are the same race (or breed) within the species homo sapiens. As the definition of hybrid vigour states this will occur when different races (or breeds) reproduce and absolutely does ‘come into play’ with mixing different dog breeds (or races)
The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel was not recognised or accepted as a breed by the Kennel Club until 1945. It is of course related to the King Charles Spaniel but is a different breed in its own right
The history of present day breeds is a wealth of cross-breeding. The German Shepherd Dog, for example, did not exist before 1899 when ‘from the heterogenous match and mix that comprised German Herding Dogs one was chosen to be the first GSD’. The Golden Retriever was developed from the crossing of a flat coated Retriever with a Tweed Water Spaniel with occassional out crossings to the Irish Setter and accepted as a breed in 1913. The Boxer,’a man-made breed started in the late 1800s, a cross between the Brabant Bullenbeier and small mastiff types like the English Bulldog. The Beddlington, a cross between the Rough Scotch Terrier and possibly a South American Terrier. The Standard Poodle from the pan-European Water Spaniel, the Labrador Retriever from the St.John’s Newfoundland Water Dog, the Newfoundland from a combination of the native Indian dogs and the many European breeds carried across the Atlantic, the English Setter from the Spanish Water Spaniel and known originally as the Setting Spaniel, the Kerry Blue Terrier from the Portuguese Water Spaniel and so on and so on back to the wolf.
Or did you think that God said “Let there be West Highland Terriers” and it was so?[/quote]March 9, 2005 at 6:24 pm #65105AnonymousGuest
if God would have chosen a breed of dog it wouldnt have been a west highland white terrier
it would have been a COLLIEApril 22, 2005 at 11:16 am #65106anamunroMember
These dogs are all the rage in the US. We saw a yorkiepoo on our most recent trip and I have to say he was very very very cute. His fur was ridiculously soft and I definitely would’ve stolen him if I could.April 22, 2005 at 12:31 pm #65107Pom_QueenMember
What about a PooPom/PomPoo?,or a PooeyPom in my case ::)April 22, 2005 at 1:33 pm #65108AnonymousGuest
Its odd how some names go together …
Bull Terrier and Shitzu for example 😉
Personally, I dont think dog breeds should be purposfully crossed like this – but thats just me.
Claire !April 22, 2005 at 1:47 pm #65109Pom_QueenMemberquote :
;D ClassMay 16, 2005 at 10:56 am #65110AnonymousGuest
Now this is funny….
Shih Poo (Shih Tzu x Poodle)May 16, 2005 at 12:50 pm #65111AnonymousGuest
I can’t view it Claire, keeps saying an error has occured. Sounds very interesting though ;DMay 16, 2005 at 1:32 pm #65112AnonymousGuest
its just got a couple of pix of shit-poo puppies thats all ! 🙂
u aint missing much !
Claire 🙂May 29, 2005 at 9:46 am #65113AnonymousGuest
I can’t look at them either, something about security settings set too high!!May 29, 2005 at 9:50 am #65114AnonymousGuest
I cant even view it now !
sorry — u will have to imagine …
i only posted coz the name is funny !!! heh
Claire.May 29, 2005 at 1:37 pm #65115emma_penMember
Just fancy grab-attention cutesy-pie names for a crossbreed that could be found in multiple shelters worldwide…..especially so now that they are being extensively puppy farmed in the US. ::)
So….if I was into gimmicks and being ‘trendy’, I might give my 2 beloved crossbreeds ‘breed names’ to make them appear cute to others….
Asha the ‘Shepurcher’ or ‘Lurcherd’ 😀
Elliot the ‘Mastaff’ or ‘Staffiff’ ;D
Just think, William could be a ‘Trollie’ (assuming he is collie/terrier here…) :-*
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