right thats it!!

[kizkiznobite]

no hun …way before that..chart the episodes…

[kerrie and stan]

what his runny tum episoeds?

[kerrie and stan]

ok runny tum episoeds: i am going by the posts that i have put

Febuary:dont know date times

1st june:
3am,6:30am, 1:40pm very runny with a couple of lumps, light brown in coulor

9th june:
6am runny light brown, 7am with blood

10th june
7am still with blood
First trip to vet

june 12th:
still blood in poos, no episoeds

june 26th:
6am

july 11th:
prelim poo test

july 19th:
was sick

july 20th:
three day course of panacur

july 30th:
12pm lots of blood

july 31:
10pm realy bad

august 1st:
2nd trip to vets, poo test done, changed onto burns bickies

august 11th:
e-coli result from poo sample

august 21st:
8:30am soft bit had a bit of blood

his poo has always been soft since the start, when i changed him onto burns his poo went from a very light brown to a darker brown then today it went back to a very light brown with a bit of blood.

[kerrie and stan]

should i stop taking him out with the bike until we can get his problem sorted ???

[TobyTeaCosy and Angela]

Bless you and Stan Kerrie, I can’t advise on the dates and times etc but I know how frustrating and upseting this can be on a smaller scale with Toby’s skin, hope you get to the bottom of it soon,  :-* for you an lovely Stan x

[kerrie and stan]

thankyou angela, its just infuriating when its all going so well and then he has a relapse. stan says thanks for the :-* ;D

[kizkiznobite]

give me a couple of hours ….

[kerrie and stan]

ok, thankyou bev for your help :-*

[kizkiznobite]

you got 2 cycles going

a 7 – 9 day and a 16 – 18 day

[kerrie and stan]

ok so what does that mean? and how is the best way to get rid of it?

[kizkiznobite]

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/giardia-in-dogs.html

i still going with the giardia at the moment….i think the possibility is that the  7 – 9 day is cyst stage and the 16 – 18 day is the trophozoites stage

the problem is that it doesnt show up in every stool test…so you need to get samples done daily until you have 3 clear and then do that again in line with the cycle times…either that or worm again…

if not that then the infection could have kicked in the colitis that is proving hard to heal….

will go check out the e coli cycles….

[kerrie and stan]

cysts can stick to the fur and skin of the animals. Make sure the dog is bathed and cleaned thoroughly with a mild shampoo

so should i be bathing him regularly

i will worm him again and see if that helps, although the vet did say that the fecal sample came back clear for worms but i will do it to be on the safe side.

so is there anything i can do to help and support him until i hear from my insurance because i can not do the three day fecal samples without their backing

[kizkiznobite]

also….e coli

‘Medications to avoid
recovery rate from E. coli infections in 5 to 10 days without the need for medication. Antibiotics are not recommended. ‘

has he had any urine problems? cysitis etc ?

[kizkiznobite]

‘Resistance to two or more of the antibiotics was found in 62% of the isolates. Conclusions from these data indicate that diseases caused by Salmonella and E. coli (such as diarrhea or urinary tract infections) should not be treated with clindamycin and ampicillin. These tests also point out the need to curb over-prescription of antibiotics to prevent selection of drug resistance.’

[kerrie and stan]

i dont think he has, hes been peeing normaly, normal colour

‘Medications to avoid
recovery rate from E. coli infections in 5 to 10 days without the need for medication. Antibiotics are not recommended. ‘

so does that mean that they vet should have let me continue with anti-bs once he knew it was e-coli ???

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