August 30, 2008 at 10:28 pm #61997
any training advise on how i can dodge to be less….explosive….reactive? It’s almost like he thinks he’s king of everything and should a simpleton dare bark/grumble/growl at him it’s like world war 3 ::)
It’s awful at flyball cos i do find that there are quite a few dogs that like to snap and bark at other dogs (including his majesty ::)) and it just gets dodge going then i get totally stressed out because i feel like a sitting duck just waiting for the next dog to try it on with him and then have to deal with the raging bull at the end of my lead. I need like an off switch word or to magically teach him to count to ten and breath before ‘dealing’ with the certain offender ::) i feel with dodger that there’s no inbetween he’s either nice or he’s not ::)
:help:August 30, 2008 at 10:48 pm #77657*Nick*Member
I’m not sure what to suggest Laura…I think Bev has a “time-out” cue or something like that, maybe that would help
I tell ya though, I feel for the Dodge…If I spent more than 5 minutes in a Flyball arena I’d be swingin’ for the fences myself! Bunch of yappy overhyper dogs that get wound up and wound up until they have their 5 seconds of “fun” yappin’ all the way and then straight back into the car until they get wound up again for another 5 seconds of psychotic manic and completely compulsive behaviour!
Anyway Dodgeboy, I know how you feel but you mustn’t rip those little beggars to shreds because that would upset your mum and that’s never a good thing :-* :-*August 30, 2008 at 10:56 pm #77658
see i was thinking about the time out cue but when do i say it. I would have thought that if a dog was growling at my dog and my dog started growling back i would say it then. So stopping it from going any further but actually doing it to a behaviour whereas with dodger there’s nothing. I can’t say time out when he’s not actually doing anything but then when he does do something it’s to late to tell him to carm down it’s more of telling him to stop. ??? god i’m soooo confused lol ::) will wait and see what the bev suggests. thanks for the laugh though Nick :-*August 30, 2008 at 11:18 pm #77659MudgieMember
From someone who has witnessed this first hand with you and dodger I would say that you need some time with dodger before the flyball starts. Even ten minutes of him running around the field beside the runs to burn off some energy and get his focus on you 🙂 You were really stressed at flyball I picked up on that so who knows what Dodger was thinking. By the end of the flyball he was lying still beside you and relaxed that’s because you had relaxed by then. :-* If you can get his focus on to you instead of what is going on around him then that is a good start ;D ;D but to be honest I think if you were less stressed caring about what everyone else thought about him then he would settle much quicker 😉
some of the dogs are rather vocal but it is what you want to gain from this that is important – I dont need to hype Nacho up but I make sure that he has a good runabout before hand – Nacho is more focussed on me than anything else that is happening – get Dodger to focus on you more then everything else well be easier to manage :-*August 30, 2008 at 11:29 pm #77660
will try giving him a 10 min run with his ball before he comes mudge thanks :-* I’m a bit stuck on the focus on me bit with him because at the min the only thing that will get him focued on me is his fav ball but then he gets possesive of it and can snap at dogs that come near him :-\ can any training can help with his possessiveness? (is that even a word :-\)
anyway for next week he needs a 10 min run before hand, i need to de-stress myself, we need to leave his ball, i need to think more about dodger then about what the other people think of him and we need to have fun ;D ;D ;D will see how many of those we can pull off next week :laugh:August 31, 2008 at 9:53 am #77661wagsMember
what i have found with Cleo over the years is to just keep her out of the way and keep her focused on me
she tollerates NO crap from anyone
SO what i do is stand to the side, i can see my turn in the running but im doing daft things, leg weaving, twists, spins etc that way her concentration is totally on me – and yes ive done this in a flyball arena in a comp when shes been 5th dog and not racing, and ive done it in agility ques as well
also with Meg who cant cope with overlly stressfull situations i do something similar – shes never in the line up to race because the whole “RRRREEEEAAAADDDDYYYYYYYYYYYY” thing kind of stresses her out so shes to the side and kept as calm as possibleAugust 31, 2008 at 10:41 am #77662
thanks for all the help and advise on the flyball side of it but i meant his temper in general. So if i’m waiting by the side of the path keeping dodger’s attention with his ball while someone walks past with their dog should there dog come up to dodger (unless it’s one of his shepherd friends) he’ll have a go at them because of his ball. But if i take away the ball i take away his focus and he’d run up to them instead. Also if hes playing with his ball and a new dogs comes up and they sniff each other should the other dog grumble at him he doesn’t walk away or grumble back he lunges back.
for example we were waiting in the middle of the field as this woman walked around the outside with her rottie. The rottie is lovely really friendly but does run up and say hello to everyones dog. He came running up to dodger and because i had the ball and dodge was waiting for it he turned around and chased the rottie all the way to the other little field growling at him. Once he was far enough away and the rottie stopped running dodger turned came running back to me and lay down (the posistion i cued him into while we waited at the start)August 31, 2008 at 3:25 pm #77663MudgieMember
laura – there is no dog that has been more ball focussed than nacho – you need to walk him without the ball. training without the ball – take him out early somewhere quiet where you can get peace to do some training with him. take some chicken – or if he is fed kibble then take that. Take him when he is hungry you can use what he is fed as his training treats (unless he is fed wet then we have a problem ;D)
You are depending on the ball for him to do what you want :nono: I know it is difficult – been there – but that isnt a good thing and you need to move away from the ball dependency. 😉 If you have a good training session then reward him with some ball play at the end ;D
Try relax a bit which I know is difficult if you are waiting on him kicking off 😉 but you stressing and holding his lead tight just escalates things 😉 Will help you all I can on Thursday – if your parents are willing to come back a little later for you then I will help you after flyball :-*August 31, 2008 at 5:23 pm #77664
I think Mudgies right – and yes sounds like you need to forget the ball – YOU need to be interesting to keep his foucs NOT his ball :-*
Laura can you not call him off when he started chasing that rottie? Is that something that can be taught? ???
AND TAKE SOME RESCUE REMEDY BEFORE YOU GO GIRL!! :ok: 😉August 31, 2008 at 5:49 pm #77665
my doggy absolutly loves toys, completly obsessed by them. when i first stsrted training her i made the mistake of using toys to motivate her (seeing as if i had a toy she would be totally oblivious to anything/one else) i thought.. great! i will get her to work for toys. however as u know it doesnt always work the way we want it to! jess was just fixated on the toy and it was difficult to train her. :nono: so i decided to take toys completly out of the equation and replace them with sausages ;D (or any other stinky food we find revolting but dogs love!) i also introduced clicker training which is fab for keeping their attention. do u clicker train dodge? definatly worth a go.
now jess still loves her toys (especially tennis balls!) but will work brilliently for food rewards. (hungry tummys are a huge bonus!) u need to get him watching and focusing on you rather than that toy. so like i said above try removing toy from equation and teach some command with food and clicker 🙂
hope this helps :yes:August 31, 2008 at 6:04 pm #77666
I thought your dog was called Jazz ???August 31, 2008 at 6:19 pm #77667
jazz is my nans dog who lived with me for a while- names got a bit confusing at times!August 31, 2008 at 6:22 pm #77668
so you have a jess too? yep confused now 😀August 31, 2008 at 6:25 pm #77669
for a while we had jazz but not anymore! now i hav jess but shes here to stay!! shes my baby 🙂August 31, 2008 at 6:34 pm #77670
lovely, what breed is jess? 🙂 got any photos we like photos!
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