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Here is my current litter enjoying the snow. 

First time for me to have a litter during snow.


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The one on the left is my Inka and she is a hellion.

The right hand one is her brother who  is a real gentleman, but has learnt to stick up for himself and give as good as he gets from her.

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Here are two of them taken by Stuart Horner at the club show on Saturday.  they ahd a great time. 

Though of course they weren’t really there :-X p:-)

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Will miss Blue when he goes on the 11th, they are calling him Elvis!!!!

Inka is a little minx and the adults will have their work cut out containing her cheek.  Am looking forward to being able to start training her in earnest once her brother has gone.

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[quote author=SuzAndTheDiva link=topic=12516.msg242128#msg242128 date=1222112215]
Shes gorgeous! More i see this breed the more i like them – any new photos of the others?  ;D
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Yep there are more of her brother here: http://www.barbelka.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/npups.html
and one of her sisters owners took loads of pics every time they visited and when they took their girl home: http://picasaweb.google.com:80/michduncg/Elkhound?authkey=ikngaQmquzw

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Promise to be more conscientious with training this one  p:-)

Must admit to having been a bit hit and miss when Myka was a pup, all that awful wet summer of 2007 didn’t help!

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Definately Norwegian Elkhound (our breed rescue are aware and helping).

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[quote author=Val link=topic=214.msg182458#msg182458 date=1193246749]
I am not saying that pure breeds health is all doom and gloom, Yes most breeders are working in the right direction but as a public board both sided need putting across, I would hate any guest reading this to think all pure breds have problems more like we are the ones to find the problems but the list for Bedlingtons ain’t short.

Congenital and Genetic Conditions found with greater than average frequency in the Bedlington Terrier
Canine Microphthalmia,  Cataract,  Copper Toxicosis,  Detached Retina,  Distichiasis  Ectropion,  Lacrimal Duct Atresia  Osteogenesis Imperfecta,  Progressive Retinal Atrophy,  Renal Cortical Hypoplasia  Retinal Dysplasia,  Retinal Dysplasia,

Health screenings sometimes performed on the BedlingtonTerrier
Eye testing
Copper Toxicosis (genetic test)
Patellar Luxation
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If you looked up my breed you probably would also come up with a list like that, but some of those conditions even if more prevalent than in the canine population at large are also very rare with even breeders in the breed 30 plus years never having come across a case.  Some things may have been found in just some countires and not others.

Also a problem like Distichiasis, is more a nuisance than a health issue (as long as it isn’t neglectd), on about a similar scale to ingrowing toenails for us.

Even the diseases of most concern like PRA, Glaucoma (inheritance unknown) are very rare.  HD status is not likely to trouble a dogs health in the UK.

So a person taking a chance on any breed where health testing for main conditions and care in breeding to avoid others is taken by reputable breeders is more likely to get a trouble free pet than they are with a haphazardly bred dog especially pedigree, but also crossbreed is parents poor stock.

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[quote author=Val link=topic=214.msg182371#msg182371 date=1193236346]
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Can be nasty little **** more a wolf in sheeps clothes  ;D lots of health problems……..
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Well I have never met any nasty ones, for a terrier I find them pretty sweet natured.

As for the health issues, they a re at least as a breed addressing them quite vigorously.  Got the DNA tests for Copper Toxicosis, so a better bet than most breeds from the right source.

When you look at potential health issues in any breed you do need to take into account their prevalence.

Having seen my own breed with quite a list I know for a fact that some of the things listed Friends in the breed for 50 years have never seen, most of the better known conditions only occur very rarely as breeders take all human steps to avoid reproducing problems.

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I always thought it was so they looked even more like a lamb.

I got given a dog and cat sticker book when I was about 10 and I wanted a Beddy. 😀

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Yep they could just have gone straight for a poodle and kept a unfussy trim, or a nice sporty Bedlington etc.

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[quote author=SuzAndTheDiva link=topic=214.msg182026#msg182026 date=1193074789]

😮 noooo we dont do whiskery poodles!!!  😉
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Whiskery doesn’t appeal to me either, but the scruff bag look is what seems to be the appeal of the crosses.

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[quote author=rooooooooby link=topic=214.msg181956#msg181956 date=1193050508]
what about australian labradoodles ?
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Seems they are getting health issues ans are having to  introduce outside blood again.

You cannot develop a breed that is healthy unless you have a very wide gene base to start with.  this means thousands of extra dogs bred just to get those worthy of being bred on from, and this pattern being repeated over and over.

This has been the whole problem with our established breeds that either gene pools were small, or because of war, lack of interest there have been times when there were few being bred causing genetic bottlenecks.

The breeders of established breeds are working hard with the aid of DNA research to eradicate the problems unwittingly fixed in their breeds.

Why would anyone want to do this all over again.

there is absolutely no need at all there are enough breeds already out there to suit every taste.

Labradoodles seem to be trying to reinvent the wheel, when there are already at least four breeds that come to mind with these traits.

Morally I can see no justification for inventing new breeds especially as largely the utilitarian uses for dogs are dying out, and their main role is as a companion animal, and there are enough breeds and the overflow from poor pedigree, and haphazard production of crossbreeds in need of homes.

The Steynmere boxer experiment is rather different.  The excess pups produced were not in large numbers, as they didn’t need to be with only one gen being wanted to introduce into a quite wide gene pool.

Once the gene is established in the first crosses the rest of the breeding relies on selecting the for the trait and then backcrossing into a pretty wide gene pool.  The intention was to introduce a trait into the breed not create a new one.

The same has happened with introductions of outside blood into many breeds, sadly sometimes with unforeseen negative results introducing a problem previously unknown in the breed when hoping to eradicate another.

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OK I need urgent advice. A “friend” of mine is planning to get a Labradoodle as she likes the look of it!  ::)  😮 I’ve given her a website address of someone who sold a pup to Graham Norton, they look ok. How can I put her onto a different breed please?  >:(

Thanks  🙂
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If it isn’t too late get her info on Curly coated Retrievers, Irish water Spaniels, Lagotta Romagnola or Spanish Water dogs.  Quite the range of sizes ans amount of curl she could want, and all are Gundogs that will breed true to type.

Of course she could have one of the 3 poodle breeds and have the hair cut in any style she wanted including leaving the head whiskery.

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I find it interesting that you rarely see pictures of adults of any of these crosses, because that would show that they were lacking any uniformity so people would realise that they w re no breeds, jut like the dogs in the rescue kennels., which they could adopt for a fraction of the cost.

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