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  • in reply to: right thats it!! #81864
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    [quote author=SuzAndTheDiva link=topic=11869.msg248941#msg248941 date=1225658748]
    Your link doesnt work  🙂
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    See if this works.

    http://www.purplesage.org.uk/profiles/echinacea.htm

    in reply to: right thats it!! #81862
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    [quote author=kizkiznobite link=topic=11869.msg248920#msg248920 date=1225654968]
    wainwrights? a dog that is having colitis and being kept on wainwrights  :what:

    i give up….and giardia will not just have affected his immune system…it scars…the scars get inflammed and infected…they may still be a cycle going off…

    and  sorry dree…but as far as i am aware echinacea angustifolia will help when taken following an infectious viral outbreak and when taken prior to exposure..and this is not viral and exposure was long ago ….so the only immune boost that works on an already depleted system in MHO is vit e and sel……

    but…as i said you know where i am kerry
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    Okay, I give in  ::) and I’m outa here.  :surrender:  You know everything, Bev.  That’s fine by me.  The fact that I have treated colitis and various other illnesses, and have studied herbs for years, counts for nothing.  The reason I said stay on Wainwrights was because it looked as if he was okay on that, and Kerrie can’t afford an elimination diet, because she’s been there before, and the dog lost weight.  I KNOW that Wainwrights is crap, and it’s not a food I would feed.  But it’s NOT my dog.

    If you knew anything about Echinacea, you would know that it’s not only an immune booster…it’s also anti-bacterial, anti-virul, etc., etc.  It is IDEAL for treating the after effects of Guardia..because it will treat the inflammation, etc. of the scars!!…..but what the hell do I know!!  (For anyone interested, see here:-  http://www.purplesage.org.uk/profiles/echinacea.htm )  Believe me, Echinacea is a powerful herb, and it shows your lack of knowledge that you wouldn’t even consider it.  On top of the use of E. I would strongly suggest Vit B supplementation…..but, hey, I don’t know sod all.

    Over to you………

    in reply to: right thats it!! #81850
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    IF this was my dog, I would stick with the Wainwrights, which he seems to be doing okay on.  (Umm, getting confused now  :crazy:  ….is it Chappie and bikkies he’s on….or Wainwrights?)  I wouldn’t feed any bones, because it just *might* set off an episode.  I agree that the Guardia will have affected his immune system, so I would personally give Echinacea Angustifolia to boost the immune system.  (I can send you some, if you want it.)

    in reply to: right thats it!! #81827
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    [quote author=GSPmad link=topic=11869.msg248656#msg248656 date=1225582772]
    or salmon & potato?  :-\
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    Did I miss that one?  I only came up with the two of the Wainwright’s foods.  :-\   Maybe I’m getting too tired?  :sleepy:

    Edited to add…..just found it.  Sorry!! Duh.

    in reply to: right thats it!! #81825
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    [quote author=kerrie and stan link=topic=11869.msg248531#msg248531 date=1225570461]

    he has bikkies in the morning (2 scoops) with one tin of chappie in the evening, if i give him any more he wont eat it and will leave it.

    i think ive answered everything :crazy: if i havent then just shout and will try and fill in ;D
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    So….you’re feeding Wainwright’s complete (Duck and Rice or Turkey and Rice?) in the morning, and a tin of Chappie in the evening.  Nothing else.  So….it could be down to bones….or the fact that the bones were lamb.  Am I on the right track?

    in reply to: right thats it!! #81824
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    Sorry, I was talking about Burns.

    in reply to: right thats it!! #81822
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    [quote author=piglet link=topic=11869.msg248596#msg248596 date=1225578457]
    wainrights is [email protected] own brand Dree – if you google them you’ll get them and burns 🙂

    claire x

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    Yes, thanks.  But I need to know which one was being fed….as in Lamb and Rice…or Pork and Potato, etc.  (Although they don’t give a lot of info anyway.)  I personally don’t like it.  I had it analysed years ago, and it was awful……but they could have changed the recipes. 

    in reply to: right thats it!! #81816
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    [quote author=kerrie and stan link=topic=11869.msg248531#msg248531 date=1225570461]

    i think ive answered everything :crazy: if i havent then just shout and will try and fill in ;D
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    Okay, forgive me for going over old ground.  (And this applies to Bev, Val and everyone else.  🙂  And also, everyone, please be assured that I am not trying to step on anyone’s toes….I, like everyone else, would just like to see this dog well.)  So…..am I right in saying that he seems to do okay on Chappie and the bikkies?  His relapse was when he came off the steroids + you gave him lamb bones…yes?  So….are the lamb bones the problem?  Or….could it be just lamb….if you have fed other bones?  Sorry for all the questions.  But sometimes going over old ground and answering “old” questions can bring up new answers.

    Can you give me the website for the Burns food?  He was okay on Burns?  And the website for the Wainwright?  And he’s okay on that too?

    Thanks for bearing with me.  🙂

    in reply to: How did your dog get his\her name? #70579
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    Nell is named after my Gran and my Mum….both called Eleanor, although gran was called Nellie in the good old days.  🙂  Tane means “The One” in old Scots language.  Kite because he’s high as a kite when he works.  :laugh:  Lana is named after two of my dogs at Rainbow Bridge…..my first Ticket GSD Jhana, and her daughter Lola who died at less than one year old.  Drum is after Bill’s late Ticket dog Dram.

    in reply to: right thats it!! #81814
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    [quote author=kerrie and stan link=topic=11869.msg248427#msg248427 date=1225532563]
    Dree i have tried the exclusion diet with chick and mash right at the start (sorry if i forgot to mention in last post got a lot on) and stan dropped so much weight and condition that i dont want that to happen again.we have already ruled beef as a contriuting factor through the exclusion diet but there is opbviously something else setting him off
    he is not just eating bones he is on a complete diet aswell with bones every now and then

    it takes time and commitment to just ONE meat source and ONE carb source, and build from there.
    i hope that you are not implying that i am not commited to sorting this out
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    No, I’m not saying that at all.  I’ve read through the whole thread (yes, the whole thread!!  ;D) and you haven’t mentioned an exclusion diet.  I would be interested in how far you got with an exclusion diet…..you started with chicken and rice?  And he lost weight?  Then what did you do?  Go to a complete food?….which contained what?

    in reply to: right thats it!! #81812
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    [quote author=kerrie and stan link=topic=11869.msg247633#msg247633 date=1225216360]
    right on sunday he had a rack of lamb ribs for breaky then chappie and mixer for diner

    monday morning goes out 6am for morning walk, poo fine (bone poo) i go out come home 1pm he breathing heavy and shaking so from past experiance i chuck him straight outside and he has semmy soft, covered in mucus. goes out for last walk at 6pm ish has poop covered in deep red blood, scared the [email protected] out of me and had him at the vets first thing.
    vet has him on ABs for 2weeks then he his having a £500 blood test done were it will test for every known food allergy to K9s
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    Kerry, this is what you wrote when this bout started.  If this was my dog, I would be suspecting the bones and taking them out of the equation for the moment.  IMO, he definitely needs an exclusion diet.  You already know that chicken and rice don’t work and neither does Chappie.  (I think I’ve read that right from Val’s post?)  So they’re out.  Very often, with an exclusion diet, I have found that you have to use a source of meat that the dog has not had before, such as turkey and a carb source such as potato.  You CANNOT just continue to feed Rmb’s and then shake your head when things go wrong.  Believe me, I’ve helped a lot of dogs with colitis, and it takes time and commitment to just ONE meat source and ONE carb source, and build from there.

    in reply to: Cara need all your healing thoughts #84348
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    Healing thoughts coming your way for Cara and for you.

    in reply to: my four (pic overload) #66943
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    Lovely pics.  Love the last one.  I read that his ball was in the tree, and had to go back for a look…I still haven’t found it!! :laugh:  Lovely dogs.

    in reply to: right thats it!! #81804
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    [quote author=piglet link=topic=11869.msg248158#msg248158 date=1225402299]
    Hi,

    if its colitis wouldnt it improve with pre + pro biotics ?  worth a pop before a GA i would have thought ??

    Claire x
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    It’s certainly worth thinking about before a GA.  I don’t think pre/probiotics would help colitis per se.  Colitis can be quite difficult to treat….it depends what is setting it off.  IF this was my dog, I would start with a bland diet..and by that I mean just one meat source and one carb source..make sure that the dog is okay on that, and then add one food at a time.  If the dog gets the runs, then the last food added is to blame.  I also would not add pre or probiotics until the dog was okay on what was being fed….if it has an “episode” you won’t know if it’s the food, or the pro/prebiotics.  Since there are many causes of colitis, it’s a question of trial and error.  Some dogs do well on a raw diet, but some dogs don’t.  Certainly, Rmb’s should not be added straight away.

    in reply to: right thats it!! #81802
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    Kerry, have they tested for colitis?  This sounds very likely.  Colitis is sometimes treated with steroids, and diet is involved.  Stan is just off steroids, and you changed his diet to include Rmb’s….which a lot of dogs with colitis cannot tolerate.  Have a look at this site:- http://www.vetbase.co.uk/information/colitis-explained.php

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